Goozex
Hello Sign in | Join | Help
My Forum Home Forums
Games
Curt Schilling is not a HOFer.
 
 
Previous | Next

Curt Schilling is not a HOFer.
Latest post 07-03-2008 5:23 PM by kube00. 28 replies.
Page 1 of 2 (29 items) 1 2 Next >
  • 06-23-2008 2:16 PM

    I'm sorry Philly fans and Red Sox Nation and the 3 Diamondback fans there are...but your guy is not a HOFer.  He is the Robert Horry of the MLB. 

    What surprises me even more than the fact that there is a debate over Curt Schilling is that Mike Mussina might...might be a HOFer.  It is so funny how history would be different if Mike Mussina had chosen Boston over New York, as we all thought that he would do so many years ago.  He presumably went to New York to win a championship and also win 20 games, but I don't think that he has accomplished either...while the Red Sox have won in that same time.  The Yanks have lost to the Marlins and D-Backs in the Mussina era, thus far, right?  Anyhow, think about that Mike Mussina a HOFer.

    Goozex Forum Moderator I'm reading: nothing I'm watching: Becoming Jane I'm listening to: Eric Hutchinson & Marie Digby Join the Folding@Home Goozex team: Team Goozex #80197 We're talking to you PS3 and PC users.

  • 06-23-2008 2:24 PM

    Um. Last I checked, the Hall of Fame contains members who have never played in a World Series. Schilling is a part of baseball lore (the sock) and must be in the HoF because of that alone, and Mussina is certainly a great pitcher who may or may not deserve to HoF.

    Goozex Forum Moderator
    taintedzodiac

  • 06-23-2008 2:29 PM

    • PSWii60 Elite
    • Top 10 Contributor
    • Joined on
      07-27-2007
    • Beverly,MA (Birthplace of the American Navy)
    • Posts 3,142
    • Goozex_Clan Goozex-Goozcast Goozex-MegaPoster Goozex-Veteran Goozex-ViralGoozex Moderator

    I agree with taintedzodiac (not just because Im a Sox fan). Schilling is a HOF, he wont be a first ballot HOF, but he will surely get in.

    PSWii60 Elite

  • 06-23-2008 2:29 PM

    If baseball lore were enough, then Roger Maris would be in.  And so would Kirk Gibson.  I'm pretty confident that Kirk Gibson isn't in.

    Anyhow, I'm still of the opinion that the bloody sock is a typical Curt Schilling creation.  And though I am a Yankee-hater, I don't know why the "genius" Joe Torre never made Curt test that ankle, by dropping bunts. 

     

    Goozex Forum Moderator I'm reading: nothing I'm watching: Becoming Jane I'm listening to: Eric Hutchinson & Marie Digby Join the Folding@Home Goozex team: Team Goozex #80197 We're talking to you PS3 and PC users.

  • 06-23-2008 2:31 PM

    Lurk, this is the first time I've ever said this, but...

    you're wrong.

    Goozex Forum Moderator
    I'm Reading:
     nothing
    I'm Watching: Fringe
    I'm Listening To: Random stuff in my iTunes library
    I'm Playing: Warhammer Online

  • 06-23-2008 3:07 PM

    • mafafu
    • Top 10 Contributor
    • Joined on
      09-18-2007
    • Sharptown, MD
    • Posts 2,477
    • Goozex AV Goozex_Clan Goozex-Goozcast Goozex-MegaPoster Goozex-Veteran Goozex-ViralGoozex

     First I disagree with lurk, Schilling is a HOFer. Second, as an Oriole fan Mussina is NOT a HOFer. The difference between the two: Mussina always pitched just well enough to lose a big game, while Schilling pitched just well enough to win a big game.


       For President!

  • 06-23-2008 4:05 PM

     Curt is definitely NOT a HOFer. He doesn't even have 250 career wins! He may have the leagacy of the bloody sock and the World Series championships but to get into the baseball hall of fame you have to have the numbers and Curt's just don't stack up. Curt really isn't even one of the elite pitchers of his era. He's a great pitcher that people will probably always remember but he's not a HOFer.

    Xbox Live should be free!!! brownsfantb
  • 06-23-2008 4:45 PM

    timpysan:

    Lurk, this is the first time I've ever said this, but...

    you're wrong.

     

    So you agree with me, Bioshock should remain unplayed and remain in plastic. 

    Goozex Forum Moderator I'm reading: nothing I'm watching: Becoming Jane I'm listening to: Eric Hutchinson & Marie Digby Join the Folding@Home Goozex team: Team Goozex #80197 We're talking to you PS3 and PC users.

  • 06-23-2008 4:49 PM

    • mafafu
    • Top 10 Contributor
    • Joined on
      09-18-2007
    • Sharptown, MD
    • Posts 2,477
    • Goozex AV Goozex_Clan Goozex-Goozcast Goozex-MegaPoster Goozex-Veteran Goozex-ViralGoozex

    Lurknomore:

    timpysan:

    Lurk, this is the first time I've ever said this, but...

    you're wrong.

     

    So you agree with me, Bioshock should remain unplayed and remain in plastic. 

    How could timpy not see that coming?


       For President!

  • 06-23-2008 5:00 PM

    Yes, the Postseason does matter to an extent but not to the extent of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.  It's all about the numbers.   Reasons why Curt won't make it....216 wins.  He wasn't even the top 12 of pitchers in his era.  No Cy Youngs.  And above all, he was and is a major *** to those that will be voting him in.  If Jim Rice doesn't get in (with better numbers), there is no way Curt will get the votes.   Curt Schilling is essentially Orel Hershiser, and Orel isn't in...nor will he.  They have similar hardware and moments.  Don't let Red Sox Nation fool you, as they think we should retire Tony C's number.

    Mike Mussina's case for the HOF.  260 wins, with a possibility to hit 300.  That's within reach if he wants hit, though I think he is done.  6 time Gold Glover.  Major innings eater.  And consistently a better pitcher during the same years as the majority of Schilling's career, outside of the Manny Alexander Red Soxs.

    Goozex Forum Moderator I'm reading: nothing I'm watching: Becoming Jane I'm listening to: Eric Hutchinson & Marie Digby Join the Folding@Home Goozex team: Team Goozex #80197 We're talking to you PS3 and PC users.

  • 06-23-2008 5:18 PM

    • mafafu
    • Top 10 Contributor
    • Joined on
      09-18-2007
    • Sharptown, MD
    • Posts 2,477
    • Goozex AV Goozex_Clan Goozex-Goozcast Goozex-MegaPoster Goozex-Veteran Goozex-ViralGoozex

    Lurknomore:

    Yes, the Postseason does matter to an extent but not to the extent of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.  It's all about the numbers.   Reasons why Curt won't make it....216 wins.  He wasn't even the top 12 of pitchers in his era.  No Cy Youngs.  And above all, he was and is a major *** to those that will be voting him in.  If Jim Rice doesn't get in (with better numbers), there is no way Curt will get the votes.   Curt Schilling is essentially Orel Hershiser, and Orel isn't in...nor will he.  They have similar hardware and moments.  Don't let Red Sox Nation fool you, as they think we should retire Tony C's number.

    Mike Mussina's case for the HOF.  260 wins, with a possibility to hit 300.  That's within reach if he wants hit, though I think he is done.  6 time Gold Glover.  Major innings eater.  And consistently a better pitcher during the same years as the majority of Schilling's career, outside of the Manny Alexander Red Soxs.

     

    Schilling in less career starts had more complete games, had a lower WHIP, lower ERA, and more strikeouts. Also remember for the first 3 or 4 years of Schilling's career he was mainly a reliever. The big difference is in postseason numbers. Schilling is 11-2 with a 2.23 ERA and a ridiculous 0.969 WHIP. Mussina is 7-8 with a 3.42 ERA and a 1.100 WHIP. Schilling is post-season excellence. Mussina, as mentioned before, pitched just well enough to lose a lot of postseason games. In other words, he very rarely was the reason they won, unlike Schilling. Also Mussina has never won 20 games! I have no problem if neither get in to be honest, but if Mussina gets in Schilling better too.


       For President!

  • 06-23-2008 7:03 PM

     I have actually seen both in person (Schilling once with the Phils and Mussina like 10 times) and neither should get in. Mussina has been consistantly mediocre (never a losing season, but never great) but has had more consecutive 10 win seasons (17) than any other pitcher. Schilling has been pretty good but is dragging along in later years (I call this the Don Mattingly effect on HoF voting) I think schilling will also be hurt by relationship with the media. He an avid gamer however. (Someone should send him stuff about Goozex)

     

  • 06-23-2008 7:07 PM

    • mafafu
    • Top 10 Contributor
    • Joined on
      09-18-2007
    • Sharptown, MD
    • Posts 2,477
    • Goozex AV Goozex_Clan Goozex-Goozcast Goozex-MegaPoster Goozex-Veteran Goozex-ViralGoozex

    devyanks90:

     I have actually seen both in person (Schilling once with the Phils and Mussina like 10 times) and neither should get in. Mussina has been consistantly mediocre (never a losing season, but never great) but has had more consecutive 10 win seasons (17) than any other pitcher. Schilling has been pretty good but is dragging along in later years (I call this the Don Mattingly effect on HoF voting) I think schilling will also be hurt by relationship with the media. He an avid gamer however. (Someone should send him stuff about Goozex)

     

    The media thing will hurt Mussina as well. He has never been one to give a flying fig for the media. His current day comparison would be Eric Bedard in his disdain for the media.


       For President!

  • 06-23-2008 8:51 PM

    i think hell get in eventually....John Smoltz tho..first ballot HOFer...Braves Rock!
  • 06-23-2008 8:58 PM

    Agreed. Btw, who are the 3 Diamondbacks fans?

    IIDominationII My Goozex video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKk5yNSYJeg My MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/alexandrubucura
<strong><FONT color=#ff0000 size=5>Missing Resource: RSS</FONT></strong> RSS
Page 1 of 2 (29 items) 1 2 Next >
 
 
About Goozex
About
Contact us
Advertise
Supporters
Site areas
Forums
Toolbox
API
Cards
Store
Help and Support
How it works
FAQ
Help
What's new
Newsletter
Goozcast
Announcements
RSS
News
Updates
Copyright © 2006-2008 Goozex, Inc. - All rights reserved - Patent pending

Game db © 2006-08 For personal non-commercial use only. All rights reserved.