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2008 Presidential Election
10-14-2008 7:32 PM by ilovetrading. 90 replies.
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Regardless of who you think would make a better POTUS, it's hard to disagree with the fact that McCain's campaign has been horribly run.  Between switching messages from experience to change, changing the Obama attacks from celebrity to risky/terrorist, "suspending" his campaign to save the country even though he was giving an interview to Katie Couric and continuing to run his campaign ads, and choosing Palin as his running mate without vetting her in order to rally the base even though he is "Country First", it's just been an incredibly poorly and schizophrenically run campaign.  Pick a direction and go with it!

Meanwhile Obama's ground game (phone banks, voter registration drives, etc.) dwarf McCain's 4 to 1 and they've made Palin, who could have been one of the Republican parties rising stars into a national joke.  When this is all over she better hope she's able to hold onto being the Governor of Alaska because her national political career is over.

Really it's just sad to see McCain, someone who was pretty much universally respected, both as a hero and politician, made to look so bad.  I was always going to vote for Obama but wouldn't have had a problem if McCain won the election.  But if he can't even keep control of his own campaign, who knows what would have happened once he made it into office.

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Eight years ago the media was in love with George W. Bush and told the world that Al Gore was a bore. There was something about Bush I just didn't like. I could not put my finger on it, but I just did not like him. My gut proved to be right.

Huh?  The media in love with Bush?  Heck even the right-wing talk radio types thought he was an illiterate idiot.  As for Gore being boring ... well, he is.  He is much better as a stateman and pitbull VP than as Prez - and don't forget it was Gore who unleashed the stuff that killed Biden's 88 presidential bid and the Willie Horton stuff about Mike Dukakis.

Thing was, even those who liked Clinton couldn't disagree that the country had come to a stalemate since '98 because of him (oh, and the 'vast right wing conspiracy').  The 2k election was as much about Clinton as it was Gore ... and Bush won by being the non-Democrat ... and, as we have discovered, by being as ruthless as necessary while pretending to take the high road and making Gore and the Dems look like whiners.  Which, of course, they were ... and continued to be for years - which just allowed Bush to further entrench.

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but something about him just makes me uneasy

Agreed.  It's something in his body language and speech that just doesn't feel right.  I can't put my finger on it, so I'll call it prejudice (by definition because it has basis only in gut-feeling), but not due to race.  I'd be thrilled to vote to add something other than an old white guy to our list of presidents.  I sincerely hope that my feeling proves absolutely wrong in fact.

Here's what I think is going to make the real difference in the coming years: active citizens.

We have to get our opinions, the opinions of the average person (not the usual trumpeters that they always hear from) to our representatives like never before.  Our representatives in government need to make informed decisions based on our needs.  Which puppet president is in office will do little good unless all U.S. Americans (distinction made because aren't Mexico and Canada in N.A. too?), regardless of party lines, voice their concerns to those acting on our behalf.

If we can do this, I believe that our country will excel once more.  It's not Obama or McCain that will turn the tide on this economic crunch, its we, the people.

I'm naytk, and I registered undeclared.

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we, the people

in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity do ordain and establish the constitution for the United States of America.

 

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School House Rock ftw

Yes, and for more than 30 years I cannot see the preamble without bursting into song ... as has happened with my wife and I entirely too many times as our kids come home with homework ...

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Never seen School House Rock.Indifferent  Guess I better add it to my movie queue.

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naytk:
Never seen School House Rock.Indifferent  Guess I better add it to my movie queue.

It was a series of 3-minute educational song-cartoons made from the early 70's to mid-80's, in an era of no cable and no YouTube when Saturday morning cartoons were a major event.  I know you can buy the collection on DVD ...

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txa1265:

Huh?  The media in love with Bush?  Heck even the right-wing talk radio types thought he was an illiterate idiot. 

Bush was made to look like an idiot until he started making real public appearances on the national stage. He wasn't a very good candidate, but the idea was if you prep people to think he's a bumbling idiot, when he actually started to speak he was actually not a bumbling idiot (politics aside). Instead, he was rather average, but in comparison to the bumbling idiot people thought he was going to be, he actually appeared to be quite articulate. So in comparison to Gore, he was better or equal.

 

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Seems to be a popular strategy these days Ick!

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txa1265:

Huh?  The media in love with Bush?  Heck even the right-wing talk radio types thought he was an illiterate idiot. 

Bush was made to look like an idiot until he started making real public appearances on the national stage. He wasn't a very good candidate, but the idea was if you prep people to think he's a bumbling idiot, when he actually started to speak he was actually not a bumbling idiot (politics aside). Instead, he was rather average, but in comparison to the bumbling idiot people thought he was going to be, he actually appeared to be quite articulate. So in comparison to Gore, he was better or equal.

 

I distinctly remember the news proclaiming how likable Bush was and how arrogant Gore was. Bush's idiot persona, whether real or not, was seen as human. Whereas Gore was thought to be a condescending know it all. If repeated often enough in the press, that sticks. Happens every election. Someone gets stuck with a label that ends up hurting them. (Kerry=flip-flopper is one example)

 


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I don't know about you guys but I want someone extremely smart to run and represent me and my country, not an average Joe with the right connections who is "just like me." I'm not smart enough nor qualified to be the President.
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naytk:
Never seen School House Rock.Indifferent  Guess I better add it to my movie queue.

It was a series of 3-minute educational song-cartoons made from the early 70's to mid-80's, in an era of no cable and no YouTube when Saturday morning cartoons were a major event.  I know you can buy the collection on DVD ...

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kevlar51:
idea was if you prep people to think he's a bumbling idiot, when he actually started to speak he was actually not a bumbling idiot (politics aside). Instead, he was rather average, but in comparison to the bumbling idiot people thought he was going to be, he actually appeared to be quite articulate.

Yeah, and not surprisingly the same people usedthe same strategy with Sarah Palin ...

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