this was the best movie ive seen all year. in second (not even close to batman was Wall-E)
Blackcoyote: Btw, where was Gotham monorail and Wayne mansion?
Btw, where was Gotham monorail and Wayne mansion?
Halo 3 MVP x5.
Lurknomore: timpysan: Go play BioShock. Never heard of it. Is it like Halo?
timpysan: Go play BioShock.
Go play BioShock.
Never heard of it. Is it like Halo?
Yes. Except fun.
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i liked it but i still think batman begins was a better movie. since i am too lazy to write a review here are some of my thoughts on the movie in lazy ass list form.....
1. I freaking dug the scarecrow cameo at the start of the film and kept hoping he and the batman imposters would show back up and play a bigger part in the movie.
2. the jim gordon fake death doesn't really work as a surprise when all of the trailers and teevee ads are loaded with commissioner gordon footage from later in the film.
3. heath ledger was fantastic and some of his scenes were really funny (nurses uniform especially) but in the theatre i saw the movie in everybody laughed like idiots every time he was on screen-even when he was just shooting at the swat van. this has nothing to do with my opinion of the movie just why i hate seeing movies in the theatre.
4. aaron eckhart was better then ledger and pretty much owned the movie as far as i am concerned. he really seemed to be the center of the movie but people dont seem to notice his performance because of all the ledger related hype.
5. two-face looked freaking sick and scary.
6. i dont think we got enough of two-face and harvey dent's descent into evil/madness. i really think the scene where gordon calls him "harvey two-face" should have been the last scene in the movie as a set up for the sequel. much like they set up for the joker at the end of batman begins. two-face seemed crammed in at the last minute.
7. the folks writing and directing films for dc need to take a hint from marvel and start dropping in characters and references just for comic fans. maybe i am nitpicking but it would have been cool to have cops from the gotham MCU actually named or shown in the movie.
8. the movie felt too long. after rachael's death having batman face off with the joker and turn the other cheek by sparing the jokers life when he was all set to kill him for revenge seemed like a better/more logical ending. the people on the boats proving batmans sincere belief in the goodness of people seemed kind of wasted with the cynical ending.
9. i really wish they would have set the dude who figured out bruce wayne is batman up as edward nigma for a sequel (its not too far off the modern riddlers origin story in the comics).
10. the scene where the prisoner tosses the remote out of the window is my favorite scene in the whole movie.
S0n!c:I wanna see the penguin and freez on it.
Penguin! I want the Penguin!
As "long" as The Dark Knight was, I really think that the extended Director's cut will solve a lot of the questions and the frustrations with the story that we have. The editing really felt as if important scenes were cut for the sake of relative brevity and the PG-13 rating.
This is just my thought, not from any reasonable source.
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comicgeek77: 3. heath ledger was fantastic and some of his scenes were really funny (nurses uniform especially) but in the theatre i saw the movie in everybody laughed like idiots every time he was on screen-even when he was just shooting at the swat van. this has nothing to do with my opinion of the movie just why i hate seeing movies in the theatre.
Why so serious?
But honestly, I was one of the people that couldn't control my laughter many times when the Joker appeared. He is the clown prince of crime, after all. The one thing they nailed in this movie was that even when Mr. J is being evil/sadistic/etc. the scene is still rife with humor. Is it laugh out loud humor? No. It's the kind of humor that you're not supposed to find funny but still do.
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comicgeek77:2. the jim gordon fake death doesn't really work as a surprise when all of the trailers and teevee ads are loaded with commissioner gordon footage from later in the film.
Yeah I was confused when that happened b/c I was thinking "wait...unless they cut out big chunks in the trailer -- that doesn't make any sense unless there will be flashbacks" -- point being is that this is a classic case of the trailer screwing with nice plot point in the movie
comicgeek77:6. i dont think we got enough of two-face and harvey dent's descent into evil/madness. i really think the scene where gordon calls him "harvey two-face" should have been the last scene in the movie as a set up for the sequel. much like they set up for the joker at the end of batman begins. two-face seemed crammed in at the last minute.
100% agree
comicgeek77:7. the folks writing and directing films for dc need to take a hint from marvel and start dropping in characters and references just for comic fans. maybe i am nitpicking but it would have been cool to have cops from the gotham MCU actually named or shown in the movie.
I'm not entirely sure Nolan didn't do that.
comicgeek77:9. i really wish they would have set the dude who figured out bruce wayne is batman up as edward nigma for a sequel (its not too far off the modern riddlers origin story in the comics).
Who knows...they very well might....Mr. Reese (aka: mysterious)
As for Joker stealing the show -- imo he did. Ledger's portrayal was above and beyond what I expected. The script for him was very good -- not perfect -- but very good. What I think really works well in this movie, that few movies ever do, is give the villain epic win after epic win. It was relentless. A+ to Nolan for bending the summer movie mold.
Just saw it last night - freaking loved it - but it wasn't at all what I expected.
Bat Begins had all the comic book archetype locations, like Wayne Manor, the Asylum, etc. I think Dark Knight wanted to get away from all the mythos and comic book movie trends that these movies usually have on massive display, and make it more human, not necessarily more gritty but just more planet Earth - more Chicago than Gotham. Which just made the movie more disturbing. The Joker was so disturbing - Jack Nichelson's Joker was such an icon, so easy to like, so not bogged down with emotional subtext and elusive motives, very straight foreward and very much a comic book archetype. Nolan/Ledger's Joker was disturbing - you still like him but it's less obvious why and you feel dirty for liking him. You feel like the person could really exist which is just scary.
I hate movies that have villains who just want to be murderous maniacs for no reason - no agenda - they just enjoy the chaos. It's such an over played trope, it gets used so much and it's usually just so cheap and shallow and feels like a just-add-water-instant-villain. This Joker is maybe the first character performance like that where I really bought into it - I could see it and it made sense even though it was nonsensical, but it ticked and it was real and ugly, and real ugly. Too ugly for a comic book movie villain - those guys are usually so pretty.
The Two-Face arc did seemed rushed, but I agree with Lurk about waiting for the Director's Cut. I got the same feeling from watching this movie that I did when I saw Lord of the Rings in the theater - it just seems obvious that lots had to be cut away to shorten the running time and the director's cut should be more fleshed out.
Blackcoyte, it's creepy that your current games sent stat is at 666. Creepy.
This has to be one of the best movies I've seen, ever.
That's all I have to say.
I saw dark knight the day after it came out, had to be there an hour before showing (we weren't even the first in the theatre by far). Everything that about why it's great has been said already so I'll just cut to the speculation.
In the third movie i think it would be great to have a criminal mastermind that would keep the mentalism around (ie the riddler, black mask, penguin). If Mr. Reese is the riddler, they can say he was inspired by the joker or something, so that way he can be equally as devious as joker was, but mabye mentally weaker than joker. Like if batman were to beat on the riddler he'd give up easily, and thats what might seperate him from joker. hes a wimp, but what with him knowing bat's secret identity, he'll probably dangle that over the bats head, with bruce wayne facing the ultimate descision: should he go public?
To balance it out, i they should have a character that would physically challenge batman. Perfect example: Bane. He has an IQ of over 180 (described as having intelligence and deduction skills on par with the batman), and has beaten batman in a fight on multiple occassions. If Bane and the riddler worked together, it would but two criminally genius villans against batman, and also give batman a run for his money in the muscle department.
I agree the Riddler would be a great villian for the third movie. Mr. Reese though doesn't seem like the right person. That scene with Bruce saving him seemed like the end of that character.
On the cameos of characters topic, I'm kind of on both sides for this. I was dying for a goth chick with red and black to show up on the Joker's arm. Harley is probably my favourite Batman villian. In the end, it didn't seem like she would have fit in with this Joker, so I wasn't as disappointed.
Though... there was that awful addition of Gwen Stacy in Spiderman 3. Someone so important to comics being just thrown in as a sort of love interest mad me angry. I mean, Spiderman's first love, her death being a huge step in comics... and then they just do that to her in the movie? So after that I'm a little skeptical about cameos of characters I like.
nolan, bale, oldman, etc have said they are kind of skeptical about wether or not a third movie will happen i am guessing/willing to bet they will all be willing to return considering how much money the dark knight is raking in. and it has already leaked out that johnny depp has been approached about the possibility of playing the riddler (which would really make my wife happy) in the next flick. and anthony hopkins has been approached about the possibility of playing scarface (him playing all nerdy and then breaking out the hannibal for the puppet would make me happy).
and i just wish the tubby cop in batman begins who was an obvious pre redemption harvey bullock would have been named harvey bullock and gotten brought back in the new film. it also would have been cool if they female cop in the new film had been rene montoya and the encounter with harvey had been life changing in a gotham central sort of way. it annoys me that the movie writers use these characters and moments that comic fans will recognize but dance around them to the degree that they change the names. instead of giving harcore comic book nerds like me a shout out they make enough miniscule changes to dodge giving credit to the folks who wrote the comics.
They were all signed on for three movies, so there IS going to be one.
If Johnny Depp is in it though... *sigh* That's all... just *sigh*
Balthea: They were all signed on for three movies, so there IS going to be one. If Johnny Depp is in it though... *sigh* That's all... just *sigh*
I believe the word you are looking for is "awesome."
Saw the movie in theaters and I loved it and last night I went and saw it in IMAX which was a whole new experience to the movie. It was pretty awesome but at times my neck was hurting from twisting it side to side and looking straight up while watching the movie but it was deffinitely worth it.